Its a new time. Pixar is the future, I love the traditional hand drawn disney... I'm gonna miss it very much. But you need to move on. Movies have evolved from silent to sound, black and white to color, puppet yodas to cg yodas, the dreadful film to digital transistion unfolding, hand drawn to computer graphics. I think you should stay optimistic about change. All i have to say, like it was said in, ironically, the Inredibles,"Theres no school like the old school." Times are just changing but don't take it out on Pixar because i think most of their movies touch upon the idea of the old school verse the new school and even more ideas then what is in front of you. Pixar is more subtle than you think. You also have to remember that kids watch these movies and don't think of such things, like how freeways, parkways, what have you have taken away from the beauty of America's old roads that actually took you through America's beauty rather than passing it(Cars) or or what the new toy vs the old toy idea symbolizes (Toy Story). I feel like if Walt Disney was alive he would of fell in love with Pixar. Watch the Pixar documentary and a Walt Disney documentary and they'd seem like the perfect match. Its ironic though that the Disney Corp. and Pixar's relationship is currently flighty.
The Pixar Story is on demand and
the The Age of Believing: The Disney Live Action Classics is on tv from time to time.
i find it very funny that Paul's dislike of a company has started this huge uproar from everyone
ReplyDeleteI see nothing wrong with Pixar, and so long as they continue to put out more of the high-quality stuff that they've shown, I'll still be a fan. Though I can understand Paul's distaste for Wall-E, I never saw the movie as preachy. The message was easy to understand, yeah, but I don't feel as if it was shoved down my throat. Besides, I can forgive something like that when I see the tremendous amount of work which must have gone into a movie like that, not to mention the balls it must have taken to make a movie in which the first half has no dialogue whatsoever aside from a few "wwwwwaaaalleeeeeee"s and "EVE-AH"s.
If only it had stayed that way, I think I would've enjoyed it much more. But whadda you gonna do.
his dislike isn't a bad thing. he has that right. i don't know... its just confusing to me. its kinda like someone being sad in disneyland or disneyworld.
ReplyDeletei...... nevermind. :)
ReplyDeleteThis is a great topic to discuss because it's so relevant. I recently saw Wall-E and adored it for many reasons. The story, like James said, isn't "in your face". Had it not been anchored by such kid-friendly protagonists and a feel-good theme, the plot could have been critcized. Of course, it is anyway from time to time. Entertainment Weekly has even put in their own nomination for Best Screenplay at the Oscars. Will it be considered? Maybe.
ReplyDeleteThe point is, though, that Pixar has revolutionized animated features. Not only are the films visually irresistable, the substance cannot be missed. Young audience members easily fall in love with the cute characters and will just as easily appreciate the message when they're older. Pixar is immediately timeless, just like it's hand-drawn predecessors. My sister can't believe Wall-E would be awarded Best Screenplay despite the lack of dialogue and my parents can't agree with impressing young audiences with deeper meaning. But who cares? Pixar is amazing.
Ok. First yeah I do have a distain for Pixar and have for a very long time. It feels in many ways that they are taking the magic away from what I grew up with. I remember the first time I saw Toy Story. I'm almost daring enough to say it was the first movie I saw in theaters that I can truly remember going and seeing. It was a fun movie but even then, I started to feel like it wasn't my cup of tea. Though it had been my brother’s, who ended up with both a Buzz and Woody and eventually a 2nd Woody when his first basically died.
ReplyDeleteI'm the guy that enjoys being the one to raise his hand and say "I personally did not like that movie. I can see why it's great but all and all I just don't like it." My list of movies that causes jaws to drop, are the ones from when I was a kid; The Lion King, A Bugs Life, E.T.- The Extraterrestrial, and The Wizard of Oz. Why can't I just not enjoy these movies? Well the reason is simple, everyone else loved them and it's their childhood memories. People want to rip your throat out if you say you don't like a movie they've been in love with since they were 4 or will bring them back to that time in their life. Because of this I don't care that people yell, question, and give me funny looks about how I feel about Pixar. Truth be told my childhood was Indiana Jones and when someone doesn't like it or hasn't seen it, I have the same reaction.
Lion King and Tarzan were older school Disney but neither were that amazing for me. But Aladdin captivated me, I was at home jumping on rugs trying to fly around for weeks. Robin Hood made me want to learn how to shoot a bow and arrow and when I first got to at Boy Scout camp, I was more over joyed then anyone else there. My emotional response, is one of the major parts of how I look at a movie. Is Citizen Kane the best movie ever MADE, yes. But What is my favorite? Raider's of the Lost Ark, because I still get all the emotions and thrill that I got from my first viewing. I just got an official Indiana Jones Fedora for my birthday and for the past 3 Halloweens, have sported his gear. That's emotional response.
Lauren Elkins will walk in here and say "Paul you laughed in Wall*E!" Yes it got a few chuckles from me, but I left with nothing. When I saw Kung-Fu Panda, the little kid in me came out, I wanted to jump around and pretend fight. For the same reason Costal probably loves E.T. (going out and making lines of Reese's to get his own extraterrestrial), I love Hercules (trying to lift the couch and going to the library and getting every book I could on Greek Mythology).
I hated Nemo, I only moderately enjoyed Wall*E, A Bugs Life was a smack in the face, and the list goes on. Pixar isn't my cup of tea with Ratatouille as the only true exception. The stories they write don't captivate and thrill me. Like Roger Ebert, I am disappointed that a few Black and White movies aren't being made from time to time, that a good silent film doesn't burrow it's way onto the big screen, and that film is slowly disappearing and being replaced by digital. I love what I love and it takes a pretty damn good cup of tea to break through my heart and even then, it's sometimes just preference.
On second thought, maybe I'm just a Dreamworks kind of guy. Spielberg seems to make things I like, except for E.T. but everyone makes a mistake from time to time.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me, I have yet to see Ratatouille.
ReplyDeleteNot even when they played it all throughout senior week, I never once sat down and watched it.
Weird. Apparently it's one of Pixar's best, not just for Paul but for many others. The concept never really appealed to me, though. I never saw the message as being very fresh or new. An animal is finding acceptance by humans in a whacky situation? Well, let me just watch one of the other thousands that fall under that category. Or am I missing something?
Anyway, this topic has reminded me to add it to Netflix, if only so I can see what all of the fuss is about (though some reassurance might be nice.)
Well I went in watching it and being like "Gooooooooooooooooood Pixar. Why do I need a friendship overcomes all and even the tiniest creature can do big things story!" And then I was like "here's the exact story that will happen with only some slight variations." Well... I was dead wrong on what the story ended up being once it unfolded and while the message was basically friendship and anyone can do anything, the story was a pleasurable departure from the simple Disney story line.
ReplyDeletei understand where paul is coming from...he has his own opinion
ReplyDeletebut it was a good way to start a discussion haha
i love pixar
Paul you're absolutely right. The beauty of film is that there are so many different choices of movies that you can like or dislike.
ReplyDeleteBy the way as a kid i watched Indiana Jones, Star Wars, the Gremlins,